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Post by maguire on Nov 2, 2010 13:40:36 GMT -5
A dimmer that has the ability run 0-10v lighting by itself ( like a NovaT) , in my opinion would be a home run. A lot of the LED's I am seeing residentially, are 0-10v control. I have a project with 20 x GRX-TVI's in a closet ( and 20 x RRD-10ND's). This is an extremely expensive way ( not to mention UGLY), to control the LED light source.
Forget that any energy costs savings are totally lost with the extra required parts!
A drawing of a RadioRA2 neutral wire dimmer hooked to a GRX-TVI would be a great place to start. ( There is EXTREME confusion on how to wire this scenario in the field)
my 2c
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Post by Jimm Reifsnyder on Nov 2, 2010 21:37:52 GMT -5
The new "super dimmer" 6XA will handle 0-10v, due for release December.
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Post by hanshi on Dec 30, 2010 10:38:49 GMT -5
To clarify the above statement by Jimm, the 6NA dimmer that is on the horizon will not directly control 0-10V.
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Post by maguire on Jan 7, 2011 16:53:06 GMT -5
Didn't think so.
I still maintain that a 0-10v dimmer for RA2 would be a great addition. I just quoted another job with 10 zones, all 0-10v LED control. I am going to have 10 big black boxes in a back room. Lots of labour, weird wiring ( according to the contractor), and clicking relays.
The extra cost on this job are $1800 for parts, and lots more for labour. You would have to have this system in operation a very long time to realize energy savings of any kind.
Maybe I'm the only one.
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Post by hanshi on Jan 9, 2011 14:40:19 GMT -5
As always, you're feedback is appreciated and will be taken back to the team for consideration. I would doubt that you are the only one with these needs.
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Post by Jimm Reifsnyder on Jan 10, 2011 13:31:09 GMT -5
To clarify the above statement by Jimm, the 6NA dimmer that is on the horizon will not directly control 0-10V. Sorry for the F-up I saw LED and instantly jumped in the Super Dimmer. |
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Post by maguire on Jan 10, 2011 14:42:32 GMT -5
That's alright. A pint of Yuengling on my next CB trip may make me feel better.  |
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Post by Bailey on Jan 10, 2011 18:46:34 GMT -5
You're letting him off easy- only a pint of Yuengling? Go for at least a sixer and bring some home...
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Post by Jimm Reifsnyder on Jan 11, 2011 1:23:37 GMT -5
That's alright. A pint of Yuengling on my next CB trip may make me feel better. Only a pint damn that's easy lol. Your on. |
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Post by lightingdziner on Jun 25, 2011 2:27:03 GMT -5
Quite a few of my projects these days are in Lofts.
We just don't have a whole lot of closet space for the TVI's. Not to mention when I do have some kind of closet, it is less than ideal for a noisy TVI to be installed in to it. (relay clicking)
I would love love love a wall box 0-10V dimmer to use for LEDs.
LED's are not going away, and I am using more LED products that require 0-10V dimming.
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Post by bradkas on Jun 25, 2011 14:09:44 GMT -5
I do agree LEDs are not going away, although I think 0-10V dimming will become less common as LED drivers that respond well to triac dimming enter the market.
Quite a few manufacturers I have talked with have drivers on the way that we will see in 8-12 months (apparently). Not to take away from the need to have a better solution for 0-10V, because it does feel very band-aidish, but I wonder, if resources are very limited are they are better spent dedicated elsewhere?
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Post by lightingdziner on Oct 27, 2011 1:11:57 GMT -5
So I just got home from Light Show West here in LA. (smaller version of LFI, but still important)
Lutron YOU MUST put people on a wall box solution for 0-10 Volt!
It is not going away, in fact today only reinforced the need we have for this product.
I would say that 85% of ALL new LED products are using 0-10V control. I wanted to grab Mark Gasper, and take him around to some of the booths but he was already gone when I got back over to the Lutron booth.
Using TVI's to accommodate these devices is not a good solution at all.
They are loud, and way to big for most residential jobs. Not to mention that every one of your competitors have a wall box solution for this type of dimming.
I hope I have stressed to you guys just how important this is?
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